Unsure where the swearing came from! I feel a bit awkward, do you mind not doing that?
Anyway: the original stated mandatory participation that they don't have the authority to request or the ability to enforce, so no, Benevenuta's original points and objections to it all still stand and if Pel needs a minute to compose herself, that's fine, Benevenuta is genuinely trying to work with her on this and doesn't mind her needing to take a second. If she needs some help writing things down, she's got a lot available to her and Benevenuta is more than happy to do it - she's been taking the minutes of this meeting as well, for instance, so they will have it all in writing regardless.
As it stands in this moment, the paragraph regarding Templars doesn't appear to contain anyone's idea - Benevenuta objects to the ambiguity of it because if they aren't putting forth something specific, it doesn't look like the Council of Magi are reaching out and being the responsible ones, it just looks like they think the Templars should solve their problems for them somehow and don't want to come out and say so. Pointedly opening with a denial of Templar authority emphasises that rather than taking away from it. "We don't need you, but".
They need to have a specific proposal or they need to leave the Templars out of it. Offering to give mages an opportunity to seek their assistance through the Council would be an acceptable alternative unlikely to be shot down by anyone as it would be purely voluntary on both sides, and they can state it briefly and effectively. They don't need to point out that they deny Templar authority again, they can simply put forward what their actual offer is and leave it at that.
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Anyway: the original stated mandatory participation that they don't have the authority to request or the ability to enforce, so no, Benevenuta's original points and objections to it all still stand and if Pel needs a minute to compose herself, that's fine, Benevenuta is genuinely trying to work with her on this and doesn't mind her needing to take a second. If she needs some help writing things down, she's got a lot available to her and Benevenuta is more than happy to do it - she's been taking the minutes of this meeting as well, for instance, so they will have it all in writing regardless.
As it stands in this moment, the paragraph regarding Templars doesn't appear to contain anyone's idea - Benevenuta objects to the ambiguity of it because if they aren't putting forth something specific, it doesn't look like the Council of Magi are reaching out and being the responsible ones, it just looks like they think the Templars should solve their problems for them somehow and don't want to come out and say so. Pointedly opening with a denial of Templar authority emphasises that rather than taking away from it. "We don't need you, but".
They need to have a specific proposal or they need to leave the Templars out of it. Offering to give mages an opportunity to seek their assistance through the Council would be an acceptable alternative unlikely to be shot down by anyone as it would be purely voluntary on both sides, and they can state it briefly and effectively. They don't need to point out that they deny Templar authority again, they can simply put forward what their actual offer is and leave it at that.